At the end of the first year
of sweeping Beatlemania in Britain, the Fab Four gave an entertaining and
enlightening interview to Dibbs Mather during a stop in Doncaster on December
10th 1963. Mather conversed with the Beatles in their dressing room just before
their performance at the Gaumont Theatre. Topics of discussion included the
changes that fame had brought into their lives and the origins of the name 'The
Beatles.'
John Lennon displays his
brutally-cool sense of humor, and also reads his poem 'The Neville Club'
well-before the release of his first book. Lennon's collected poems and short
stories 'In His Own Write' would not be published for another three months.
Meanwhile in America, on the
same day as the Dibbs Mather interview, CBS-TV Evening News anchor Walter
Cronkite showed a clip of an unknown group called The Beatles as an interesting
story on the incredible mania-like fame they were experiencing in Britain.
Q: "Ringo Starr, it's
been suggested that boys coming from the particular area that you've come from,
if you'd hadn't found an interest in music, might have found it much more
difficult to get out and make a go of life. Would you comment on this?"
RINGO: "I think it's
true, you know. I mean, when I was sixteen I used to walk along the road with
the rest of the lads, and we'd have all our trade coats on. You know, we'd had
a few knocks with other rival gangs, sort of thing. But then I got the drums,
and the bloke next-door played a guitar. And I got a job..."
JOHN: (sings) "'Teddy
Booooy!'"
RINGO: (laughs) "...and
we started playing together. And another bloke from work made a bass out of an
old tea chest... you know them days. This was about '58, mind you. And we
played together, and then we started playing on dances and things, you know,
and we took an interest in it. Then we stopped going, you know, out to sort of
hanging around corners every night."
Q: "Would you say that
the enormous difference which your success in this field has had, has greatly
influenced you, Ringo, as far as your philosophy of life or what you want to
get out of it?"
RINGO: "Oh, yeah."
Q: "George Harrison, how
different is your life now as a member of the Beatles to what it was, say, even
four years ago?"
GEORGE: "Everything's
completely changed. We don't have a private life anymore. And we, umm, are
public property now. Not that we mind."
Q: "You don't mind being
such public property with no private time at all?"
GEORGE: "Well, you get
accustomed to it, and after a while, you just take it for granted, and you just
do everything automatically... like signing autographs and (laughs) waving at
people."
Q: "What about home life
with your own family? Do you ever get any these days?"
GEORGE: "Yeah.
Occasionally, say once every fortnight, we manage to get home. And, umm, if
we're not appearing in our hometown then it's usually OK; they don't expect us
to be there, and we... It's, you know, quite quiet."
Q: "Does this change the
status for the family much?"
GEORGE: "Umm, not
really. It makes 'em more popular (laughs) and people sort of after a while
spot 'my' parents, anyway. You know, it's the same with the others. They'll
say, 'There's George's dad,' whereas before they wouldn't know him from Adam.
But, you know, they're just still the same as before."
Q: "What about the
wealth that comes with this kind of success? Has that made a great deal of
difference to the way you live... and the way your family lives?"
GEORGE: "No. It hasn't
made... not so far anyway... it hasn't made any difference. Except for holidays
and things like that. You know, we can just get the money out of the bank and
go wherever we want."
Q: "You are one of the
respective deep-thinkers in this group. How do you see it as a peak in your
life? What happens to you after this is over?"
GEORGE: "Well, umm, I
suppose we'll stay doing this sort of stuff for a couple of years. Whether
we're... I mean, naturally, we won’t be able to stay at this level. But, umm,
we should have another two years at least, I think."
Q: "What happens to
George Harrison then?"
GEORGE: "I don't know.
I'll know by the time that comes along. Probably I'll have a little business or
something like that."
Q: "You don't want to go
on in the profession?"
GEORGE: "Probably, yeah.
I'd like to make records, you know, with other artists. I don't mean perform...
I mean as a producer."
Q: "The technical
side."
GEORGE: "Mmmm. But I
don't know. You can't really tell at this stage."
Q: "Paul McCartney,
you're one of the original Beatles. Where did the name Beatles originate?"
PAUL: "Well Dibbs, uhh,
John thought of it first of all. Just as a name; just for a group, you know. We
just didn't have any name. Well, oh yeah; we did have a name, but we had about
ten of 'em a week, you know... and we didn't like this idea, so we had to
settle on one particular name. And John came up with the name Beatles one
night. And he sort of explained how it was spelled with an 'E-A,' and we said,
'Oh yes, it's a joke.'"
Q: "Since then, it's
come to represent a large section of the young population-- called the 'Beatle
People.' Do you people regard yourself as leaders of this particular
group?"
PAUL: "No, we're not
leaders of any sort of group. The thing is-- people always say, 'Well, you
started great trends and things,' but in actual fact, all that we've done is
gone along with the trends. And if in going along with it, we sort of encourage
other people to go along with a couple of our ideas, you know; all very well.
But we haven't tried consciously to start anything like a trend, you
know."
Q: "Now, you were very
much younger when this enormous success started, and you're riding the summit
of it now. Do you see it as a peak... a mountain... interfering with the flow
of your life?"
PAUL: "I don't really
know what you mean by 'very much younger.' It was only a year ago."
Q: "But you've been
working since '58, haven't you?"
PAUL: "Well, yeah... not
working, you know. I mean, strictly speaking, we've been out of work since '58,
and we've been doing this as a hobby. 'Cuz we've only been doing it as
semi-pros. I left school and went right into it. And we were only sort of
picking up a few quid a week, you know. It really wasn't work. I think the main
thing is now that, as we've got ourselves a bit of security... we don't really
have to worry, at the moment anyway, what we're gonna do after it. So we
don't."
Q: "None of you are
really concerned with going on in this field as a profession?"
PAUL: "Yeah, of course,
we are. I think all of us really, if it suddenly flopped, then we would do
something in this profession. But what we mean by Ringo and George's answers,
that we don't really want to do... like the conventional answer is, 'I'd like
to do ballads and films and straight-acting,' which is so corny. Because half
the people who say that can't act or ballad or film. So, umm, we probably
wouldn't want to do that unless we thought we could do it. We're having a bash
at a film next year, and if we find that any of us can act, say, one out of us
may become actors. But we haven't got any great hopes of being actors at the
moment."
Q: "It's said, John
Lennon, that you have the most 'Goon-type' humor of the four Beatles."
JOHN: "Who said
that?"
Q: "I think I read it in
one of the newspapers."
JOHN: "You know what the
newspapers are like."
Q: "I don't know. What
are they like?"
JOHN: "Wrong."
Q: (laughs) "This is
going wrong... I want to get a nice 'Personality' bit."
JOHN: "I haven't got a
nice personality."
Q: (laughs) "Is this
evidence of Goon-type humor?"
JOHN: "No, I don't think
I really have Goon-type humor. That's just an expression people use."
Q: "What has the success
you've enjoyed with the Beatles meant to you personally?"
JOHN: "More money than I
had before. That's the good bit."
Q: "Is it going to make
any difference to your life the way you live it after, say, this calms down...
the enormous excitement you're generating at the moment?"
JOHN: "I don't know, you
know. Really."
Q: "Do you think your
career as a comic might open up to you?"
JOHN: "No. (laughs) I
don't stand a chance being a comic."
Q: "Why not?"
JOHN: "I'm not funny
enough."
Q: "Umm, you were
interested in poetry in school."
JOHN: "Who said?"
Q: "It's printed in a
book compiled by the Beatles and entitled, 'The Beatles.'"
JOHN: (laughs) "I
haven't read that book. We don't normally write those things."
Q: "Written any good
comic poems lately?"
JOHN: "Yes."
(interviewer hands John a
piece of paper containing one of Lennon's poems. The other Beatles giggle)
Q: (laughs) "I just
happened to have it here by sheerest coincidence."
JOHN: "'Dressed in my
brown...' Oh no, I've lost it. Hold on. I can't read it, you see. I've only
just written it. (giggles) Well, that's how it starts, actually!"
Q: (laughs)
JOHN: (reads) "Dressed
in my teenold brown sweater I easily micked with crown at Neville Club, a seemy
hole. Soon all but soon people accoustic me saying such thing as 'where the
charge man?'"
JOHN: "I'm turning it
over--"
(reads) "All too soon I
noticed boys and girls sitting in a hubbeled lump; smoking Hernia and taking
Odeon, and getting very high. Some were only 4 foot 3 high, but he had Indian
Hump which he grew in his sleep.'
JOHN: "But things like
that just help me keep sane."
Q: "Is this business
enough to drive you insane?"
JOHN: "No, I'm quite
normal really. If you read in the Beatle books... it says I'm quite
normal."
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